Contra Ethan Gach, the poor can save without wrecking the economy
In the continuing saga of responses to Noah Smith’s article about the poor and their savings, squarelyrooted chimes in:
Hmmm, I wonder what would happen if everyone started saving as much income as they reasonably could? Where would the high yield investments be with so much capital sloshing around? How would the markets react when aggregate demand plummets even further? – Ethan Gach
Snark aside, the key here is that, while it would benefit any individual poor person to save more (assuming, of course, that’s possible given their income and cost-of-living, which is not an assumption I’m eager to make), if every poor person somehow stumbled onto Smith’s article and tried to save more it might generate economic disequlibria that wouldn’t benefit anyone. This is semi-related to the point I’ve made before that aggregate saving is a very different animal than individual saving.
This is just not true. I wish it were true, because it means the poor actually represent a more than insignificant part of our economy. It’s not true for the same reason Noah wrote his article: the poor have no cash savings.
Let’s take a model economy where the top 20% are “rich” and everyone else is “poor”. Let’s be generous and assume the rich control only 80% of the wealth when, in our economy, that figure is far higher. Let’s also stipulate the total value of this economy is a million dollars, and the poor’s aggregate savings grow at 2% per annum against the rich whose grow at 10%. I’ll be conservative and model this with a constant returns on capital across the rich and poor. This obviously isn’t the case, but it doesn’t need to be.
So what we have is 20% of the population controlling $800,000 and the remaining 80% controlling $200,000. At the initial savings rate for the poor, this is what the economy will look like in 10 years:
Year |
Poor |
Rich |
Ratio |
1 |
200000.00 |
800000.00 |
0.25 |
2 |
214000 |
920000 |
0.2326087 |
3 |
228980 |
1058000 |
0.2164272 |
4 |
245009 |
1216700 |
0.2013714 |
5 |
262159 |
1399205 |
0.1873630 |
6 |
280510 |
1609086 |
0.1743290 |
7 |
300146 |
1850449 |
0.1622018 |
8 |
321156.3 |
2128016 |
0.1509182 |
9 |
343637.2 |
2447218 |
0.1404195 |
10 |
367691.8 |
2814301 |
0.1306512 |
11 |
393430.3 |
3236446 |
0.1215624 |
12 |
420970.4 |
3721913 |
0.1131059 |
13 |
450438.3 |
4280200 |
0.1052377 |
14 |
481969.0 |
4922230 |
0.09791680 |
15 |
515707 |
5660565 |
0.09110519 |
Now, let’s consider that the poor triple their savings rate to 6%:
Year |
Poor |
Rich |
Ratio |
1 |
200000.00 |
800000.00 |
0.25 |
2 |
222000 |
920000 |
0.2413043 |
3 |
246420 |
1058000 |
0.2329112 |
4 |
273526 |
1216700 |
0.2248099 |
5 |
303614 |
1399205 |
0.2169904 |
6 |
337012 |
1609086 |
0.2094429 |
7 |
374083 |
1850449 |
0.2021580 |
8 |
415232 |
2128016 |
0.1951264 |
9 |
460908 |
2447218 |
0.1883394 |
10 |
511607 |
2814301 |
0.1817884 |
11 |
567884 |
3236446 |
0.1754654 |
12 |
630351 |
3721913 |
0.1693622 |
13 |
699690 |
4280200 |
0.1634714 |
14 |
776656 |
4922230 |
0.15778540 |
15 |
862088 |
5660565 |
0.15229721 |
I’m not posting a table to vindicate the obvious, but the portion of aggregate savings allocated to the poor will continue to fall until their savings rate is equal to that of the rich, or 10%. This means that it’s highly unlikely that even a significant increase in the savings rate of the bottom 50% (which, in terms of wealth not income, are poor as far as our society is concerned) will cause any “disequilibrium effects”.
Indeed, the ability of the poor to affect our capital markets are even more dispersed in our economy. Because of high levels of risk aversion and poor investment practices, it’s unlikely that they will earn the same rate of return on their savings as the rich. The wealth distribution I assumed is also a lot more equal than what America actually is.
So, contrary to hazy economic thinking, nothing will happen to interest rates and investment markets if we encourage the poor to save. It would be irresponsible to think so because of what Mr. Ethan Gach says. Time to look at the numbers.
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